Should men put the toilet seat down? It’s a horrible question that we have all struggled with, in our families and relationships. Here are some points to consider:
- For women, and men too, there is a risk of sitting down upon the cold, damp, seat-less toilet, if the seat is left up and they do not notice.
- Some men tend to urinate, standing, if they find the seat in the down position, without lifting the seat, often causing a messy seat.
- Urinating standing up often leads to splashing, which can be a particular problem when the floor is carpeted. Men often splash their own trousers, also. However, splashing can also occur in the seated position. It has been suggested that men should always sit.
- Touching the seat is unpleasant. There is a risk of germs, or even of getting defecate on one’s fingers or clothes. However, a few germs can be good for the immune system.
- It is usually possible to use a sheet of toilet paper when moving the toilet seat.
- Closing the lid before flushing can help avoid getting defecate and urine particles in the air.
- If there are more men than women using the toilet, perhaps the default position would usually be up, because that makes it easier for the majority.
- Closing the lid can help avoid having rats or spiders crawling up from inside, or hiding out in the bowl.
- The feminine argument that men leave the seat in the wrong position holds no water, per se, unless there is a particular reason that leaving it down is somehow better than leaving it up – in the interests of equality, there is superficially no particular reason why women should get their own way rather than men.
- However, points 1 and 3 suggest that it might indeed be better, fundamentally, to leave the seat down.
- If everybody left the seat and lid down at the end, then this might be fair. But it would not necessarily be optimal. If everyone voluntarily chopped off their left hand, this would be fair. Pure fairness does not indicate the best approach. Arguably, putting the seat and lid down is unnecessary effort and stress for men and women alike.
- Furthermore, in the scenario in point 11, women only have to touch the lid, while men must touch the lid and the seat, which is absolutely not fair, considering in particular that the seat is often much dirtier.
- It has been suggested that the only reason that women leave the seat and lid down is to provide backup for their argument that men should do the same. The fallacy in the woman’s argument is that because she does something, the man should do it too; her argument appears solid (everyone should put the lid down to prevent aerosol germs), but her real reason is revealed here. If anyone can find a name for this fallacy, please let me know! I have been searching unsuccessfully on this detailed list of fallacies.
What are your thoughts? Leave comments and I will do my best to reply to them!